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В своём последнем в этом году ежемесячном отчёт CEO the ocean (ранее работал на высоком посту в Goldman Sachs) рассуждает о медвежьем рынке, регуляции индустрии, о том, как можно расти компании на данном рынке, а также делится планами на предстоящий год.

Коротко:

  • Как мы видим, за жопу стали брать всех, и основателя etherdelta, и airfox и Paragon возвращают токены, Basis закрывается, Binance борется за то, чтобы её сделали регулируемой биржей на Мальте (KYC/AML для всех), Robinhood отозвал депозит под 3% на свою биржу,поэтому мы впереди всех, т.к. сразу работали как будто рынок регулируем.
  • Регулирование - это переговоры. И переговоры нужно начинать с позиции силы. А вы не можете начинать их с позиции силы, если вы относитесь без должного уважения или нарушаете существующие законы.
  • Есть две бизнес модели для запуска обменников: 1) биться за существующий рынок с существующими игроками; 2) расширять спектр услуг, привлекая новых людей. Мы булишь по Lightning Network, и мы выбираем вторую модель. Куча продуктов не несут никакой пользы, но нам известно, что токенизированные активы - это те же ценные бумаги из обычного финансового мира, поэтому мы можем делать те же продукты что и там, только с помощью блокчейна и его преимуществ. Никто не знает как понять сколько стоит Биткоин, но многие понимают как оценить недвижимость. Все понимают что от превращения неликвидных активов в ликвидные открываются новые возможности финансирования, а вторичная торговля на блокчейне снижает риски и операционные расходы. Все смотрят на регулирование как на вмешательство, а мы смотрим на как на возможность создания новых продуктов и привлечения новых клиентов.

Обновления Ocean:

  • получили лицензию BitLicense (лицензия для работы с криптой в Нью-Йорке, одна из первых в пространстве) и ATS (ценные бумаги), получение лицензии брокера (для торговли деривативами) в самом начале следующего года;
  • обновления продукта: внедрили рефакторинг базы данных, что значительно улучшило время отклика. В ближайшее время: 1) наш стейблкоин (после достижения договорённости по ликвидности с рядом партнёров); 2) апгрейд движка до 0x smart contracts v2, что, помимо прочего, улучшит исполнение рыночных ордеров; 3) ребрендинг (прим. перев. ЕЩЁ? уже третий или четвёртый?) для более "профессионального" внешнего вида и соответствия требованиям регулирующих органов (прим. перев. они ещё и это регулируют?).
  • Roadmap. Есть три приоритета на начало следующего года: 1) маржинальная торговля и платформа деривативов/опционов; 2) Биткоиновые атомарные свопы; 3) внедрение решения от внешних разработчиков по защите средств для институциональных инвесторов.
  • развитие бизнеса: 1) внедрение нескольких криптофондов (которые хотят увеличить свою прибыль), которые особо заинтересованы в платформе маржинального кредитования; 2) Работа с ребятами, кто оперирует моделями "recurrent execution" - брокеры аля SFOX и Tagomi, крипто компаниями аля Set и CoinAlpha, и даппами аля Everex; 3) подписание письма о намерениях с Goldman Sachs и Nomura в начале следующего года.
  • Консультационный совет. Мы будем активно расширять его в начале следующего года. Нам повезло подписать Ingo Gefeke, который привлёк Howard Chao.

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Greetings all:

 
Happy holidays. Apologies for radio silence last month - with Thanksgiving and some family issues I needed to address, an update letter got lost in the shuffle. But never fear, progress continues. 
 
First let me address two themes in the space that in particular took hold the last two months, that in our view continues to validate our strategy as the right strategy for building long-term exchange value in the space:
  • Increased regulatory enforcement:
    • EtherDelta (a peer to peer "decentralized" platform) founder charged
    • Airfox and Paragon investor funds as part of SEC settlement
    • SEC issued a statement reminding operators and investors that any venue (whether "decentralized" or not) that facilitates the buying and selling of anything resembling a security requires registration and monitoring as an exchange 
Note that this "regulatory squeeze" isn't limited to just exchanges, the US, or even the crypto industry for that matter:
  • Basis (an algorithmic stablecoin project that raised >$130M this summer) returned
  • We heard on good authority that Binance (one of the largest crypto exchanges) is struggling to be approved as a regulated exchange in Malta, given its long history of forgoing KYC/AML for any customer withdrawing less than 2 BTC per day
  • Even Robinhood retracted its offer of 3% interest deposit account after it became evident that they spoke to no regulator about the offering
Point is, this regulatory stuff matters for any crypto or fintech company - especially when trying to spur mass adoption and bring "institutions" into the game. Regulators are not against innovation, especially when that innovation aligns with their incentives. Our non-custodial execution model prevents financial contagion and Lehman Brothers 2.0, and so our technology de-risks the larger financial system, which the regulators we've spoken with to date recognize and appreciate. It's part of the reason we're about to receive BitLicense and ATS designation.
 
But I also learned two things at GS relevant for all these regulatory debates: (1) financial services regulation is a negotiation, and (2) because it's a negotiation, you need to start from a position of strength. You can't negotiate from a position of strength if you feign ignorance or "move fast and break things" - that doesn't work when dealing with other people's money. Hence why we spent the last year working with US regulators, we'll continue to work with them and legislators on the Hill next year, and why we plan to do the same internationally, starting in Asia and the Middle East. We continue to believe - and think the market is showing - that an understanding of this regulatory game is crucial for all projects in the crypto space, and (surprisingly) crypto companies - and fintechs in general - make rudimentary mistakes from which it will be difficult or impossible to recover. That gives us a tremendous advantage in 2019 and beyond.
  • Bear crypto market: the value of any one Bitcoin's declined >80% this year; for many ERC20 and other tokens, it's been closer to 95%. Besides Basis, many other projects have already capitulated, having spent investor dollars with nothing to show for it. And even "successful" projects like 0x (whose technology we use today) are being challenged to state their long-term value when faced with increased competition from folks who are (arguably) better positioned to satisfy customer needs.
As we've spoken with investors, customers, and others this past year, it's become clear to me there are two biz model alternatives for a crypto exchange launching today: compete with established players for market share of assets that (today) are less valuable than Jeff Bezos, or be able to list new products that bring new customers into the space (in other words, grow the market). We're still big believers in the power of admitted as such recently. 
 
We do know, however, that tokenized assets - true securities and derivatives products, as might be found in the traditional financial world - are under development; are valuable (they are valuable in the traditional financial world, after all); and can benefit from operating on a blockchain rails system. We (especially me) also know that institutions like Goldman Sachs also view this as valuable. Those players won't get into the crypto game unless the potential rewards outweigh the risks. Part of the solution there is safe venues - properly regulated, with minimally risky technology. That reduces the risk. 
 
Arguably a bigger piece of the solution is what assets those players can trade - the potential reward for integrating with any blockchain-based trading venue. BTC and native cryptocurrencies are interesting, but there was limited traditional investor demand before this bear market. Still no one can say what the "fair" price of a BTC is yet. But folks do know how to price a real estate token; know that making illiquid assets liquid opens up new financing options; and that secondary trading on a blockchain system reduces risk and operational overhead. You can't list those tokenized asset products without the proper regulatory oversight.
 
Most people view regulation is this space as protection from government interference; we view it as opening new products and new customers up to us - and only us, given how far ahead we are in adoption. Combine that with our minimally risky, maximally interoperable tech, and we're well positioned going into 2019 to trade anything with anyone. I feel much better about our positioning from that perspective vs. (almost every other) crypto trading platform that's fully levered to BTC and native cryptocurrencies - especially when the market cap for those assets keeps shrinking. We'd much rather have a diversified business/product model.
 
Now, on to some Ocean-specific updates:
  • Regulatory:
  • Product:
    • Releasing our stablecoin trading platform (after sourcing liquidity from a number of partners)
    • Upgrading our engine to use 0x smart contract v2, which, among other things, will improve our market order execution
    • Some rebranding to a more "professional" look and feel, concurrent with regulatory approvals
  • Roadmap:
    • Compliant margin trading and derivatives/options platform
    • BTC atomic swaps
    • Third party custody integration, for our institutional customers
  • Biz dev: 
    • Onboarding a number of crypto funds (hungry to increase their returns) who are especially interested in our compliant margin lending platform
    • Working with folks who operate on "recurrent execution" models - brokers like SFOX and Tagomi, crypto basket companies like Set and CoinAlpha, and dApps like Everex
    • Signing LOIs with Goldman Sachs and Nomura early next year
  • Advisory board: we'll look to expand this aggressively early next year. We're already lucky to count Ingo Gefeke as an advisor. Joining Ingo on our Advisory Board is Howard Chao
Finally, I want to schedule time with all our investors to reflect on 2018 and get thoughts/feedback on plans for 2019, some time over the next few weeks. We can do this either as a group "investor call" and/or I can schedule time one-to-one with each of you. Let me know preferences.
 
As always, you can reach me at this email or the phone number below.
 
Cheers,

 

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Greetings all:

 
I wanted to share some quick updates now, as we push towards some bigger (regulatory) updates in the coming weeks.
 
But first, a quick comment on some recent news that bodes well for us:
 
Last week, Kraken announced the $100M+ acquisition of a UK regulated futures trading startup, Crypto Facilities. It doesn't have too much volume relative to other platforms, so this acquisition is more about integrating a derivatives market with Kraken's spot trading environment and doing so in a compliant fashion. It's a bit of our roadmap - as you know, we're going for the BitLicense/SEC/CFTC combo so we can trade crypto, derivatives, and securities in NY and beyond. And, options, futures, and derivatives/margin - products that are algo customers want - are on our roadmap too (more on that below). 
 
So to us, this transaction gives us a data point on the $ value of our full regulatory suite and reinforces our 2019 roadmap. And with our securities biz, institutional network, and more interoperable/less risky execution model, we have even more to offer than Crypto Facilities. 
 
Some updates from the crypto seas:
  • Technology: that's been our focus to start the year.
    • API v1 release: if you recall, late last year, we upgraded our database to improve speed, performance, and reliability of our already best-in-DEX-class execution engine. Last week, we pushed an API that makes the following enhancements to our platform, that will make our customers happy:
      • 0x v2 upgrade: we use the 0x smart contract today, which, once trades are matched, lets us facilitate an "atomic swap" without ever taking possession of our customer's assets. 0x v2's features gives us more flexibility for certain trade and asset types - NFTs as one example, which will be useful for our securities biz and our options build (more on that below). But unlike Radar Relay and other 0x DEXs, we're not using it "out of the box" - we've engineered a considerable amount of technology around 0x that provides an improved experience for users, and allows us to do things that other DEXs can't. We colloquially call this smart contract system our...
      • "Smart funnel": if you recall, our core proprietary technology is the matching algorithm we built to ensure trades are filled seamlessly, without the collisions or front running prevalent in other DEXs, and without us taking possession of assets at any time. We colloquially refer to the piece of our stack that interacts with the orders, and orderly fills them/places them on the book, as our "funnel." With this latest release, we've built a smart contract system that improves our efficiency and oversight over trades, which makes regulators happy and (importantly for customers) makes The Ocean the exclusive home of features like...    
      • Improved trustless market order system: as detailed previously, no other DEX offers true market orders, where users place an order they want executed at best possible price, and the platform automatically sweeps to fill in a trustless way. Some DEXs (like Radar Relay) ignore market orders entirely, some DEXs (like DDEX) "fudge" it by placing spread-cross limit orders where the platform skims some $, and others (like Paradex) give you a rebate at a later time to try to make you whole. Market orders are not just essential for traders, but also allow us to explore additional use cases for the platform (like stablecoin trade facilitation for remittance companies - more on that below) that are increasingly en vogue in the DeFi community. We just released an improved version of our market order system - instead of a "liquidity reservation" system," we now truly sweep to fill and with an "atomic price adjustment" trades execute and settle at exactly the price they should, right away. This reduces (the already low) latency on our platform even more, opens up new trading possibilities, and even lets us offer new incentives for folks to trade with us, like...
      • Maker rebates: a tried and true liquidity enhancing strategy is to offer rebates to the maker (liquidity provider) for trades, at the time that trade executes and settles. Our atomic price adjustment feature allows us to do just that. Right now it costs takers 5bps to trade on our platform, and makers pay 2.5bps. We'll change that to something like makers receive 2.5bps and publicize this next starting next week. We think this gives algo traders in particular an extra incentive to trade with us. It's something we can offer that no other DEX does right now, because we've invested the time and care to enhance public smart contracts like 0x with our own unique tech.
    • Developer portal: the next immediate tech release for us is a revamped developer portal. We already work closely with the CCXT team to make it easy for algorithmic traders to integrate us with their operations (they support our latest API, and we're still the only DEX there). Now we're working on code that makes it easy for other DeFi projects, stablecoin liquidity providers, and smart routing platforms to work with us too.
    • Options/shorting/margin: We're starting with an options offering that's integrated with our spot marketplace. This will give our traders a seamless experience, give crypto funds and other hodlers another way to earn $ on their holdings, and lay the foundation for shorting and margin trading (which will leverage the tech/liquidity options provide). We're still in early stages here, but we'll share more about this build soon.
  • Biz dev: focused on algorithmic clients (biggest "bang per buck" as opposed to retail focus).
    • Stablecoin liquidity, DeFi connectivity, and trading activity, oh my!: with new API released, and additional maker incentives/liquidity relationships, we'll accelerate our onboarding of clients that want to test specific strategies with our DEX. 
    • New tokens to trade: we'll be adding WBTC, more utility tokens, and our own initial options solution in the coming weeks. We're also working with securities (Harbor, Securrency, Securitize, as three examples) and derivatives (UMA) issuers who will need a regulated venue on which to trade their products, once they're available later this year.
    • Growing volume: even with a pause in activity for API upgrade, onboarding friction (with KYC/AML), utility tokens "MVP" mode, and the overall bear state of the market, we're building our liquidity/activity levels and staying competitive with other DEXs. We hit a new volume record - $50k+ in settled trades in a 24-hour period - just before our API upgrade. That was 5x Radar Relay and Paradex (two of our biggest DEX competitors) combined over the same period. Those figures will grow as we onboard new clients and list new tokens over the coming weeks.
  • Regulatory: working with outside counsel to push/close our US regulatory approvals. Recall that we already meet Bank Secrecy Act standards and are already registered with FinCen (unlike any other DEX).  
    • BitLicense: we owe NYDFS new documentation related to the API/market order upgrade mentioned above, but we'll deliver that ASAP and then can push to final approval date/announcement.
    • SEC: our review got paused with the holidays and government shutdown, but we're re-engaged and looking to schedule audit dates ASAP. Recall that we already have approval from the SEC as a BD (which lets us serve as primary issuer, an option we want to explore this year), but now we need final approval as an ATS (which lets us run a secondary market). We're engaged with Hester Peirce's office, who is running point from the SEC side on all things crypto related. Our CFTC process is running concurrently with the SEC process.
    • International: we're evaluating actively what we might want to do in Asia and MENA with some of our investors and advisers.
Finally, we're in the process of closing some additional $ this month - there's renewed investor interest in our roadmap, as there's increasing evidence that DeFi and regulation are a powerful combination. I'll have an update on that shortly, both in a 2019 strategy memo that I'll circulate here, and some op-eds I'll be posting in the near term.

Коротко о том, что внутри: 

На прошлой неделе Kraken купил стартап по торговле фьючерсами с регуляцией в Великобритании, Crypto Facilities, за $100М+. Это сделка не ради объёмов, так как объёмы на платформе были не велики. Но это показывает сколько минимум будет стоить The Ocean, когда сделает деривативы, которые есть в дорожной карте компании.

Обновления в разработке:

  • обновили базу данных, чтобы повысить производительность и надёжность. В январе сделали для этого обновления базы сделали API;
  • провели обновление своих контрактов, чтобы быть совместимыми с 0x v.2. Функции 0x v2 дают больше гибкости для определённых типов торговли. В отличие от других DEX-ов, использующих 0x из коробки, The Ocean сделал функцию "умной воронки", которая позволяет сопоставлять ордера без коллизий. Это позволяет сделать надёжную бездоверительную систему маркет-ордеров, которых также нет на данный момент ни на одном DEX. Это позволить внедрить различные DeFI инструменты;
  • скидки для маркет-мейкеров. Раньше создатели ордеров платили 2.5bps, теперь создатели ордеров будут получать 2.5bps. Есть надежда, что это привлечёт больше маркет-мейкеров именно на The Ocean, и сильно повысит ликвидность торгующихся активов;
  • следующая веха: выпуск портала для разработчиков. The Ocean тесно сотрудничает с командой CCXT, чтобы позволить алгоритмическим трейдерам легко интегрировать свои операции. На данный момент The Ocean является единственным DEX-ом. который поддерживает их API;
  • в ближайшее время на бирже появятся опционы, что позволит заложить основу для будущего внедрения возможности шорт-трейдинга и маржинальной торговли;
  • бизнес-разработка сосредоточена на привлечении алгоритмических трейдеров, ликвидности стейблкоинов, подключению к различным инструментам децентрализованных финансов (DeFi) и увеличении ликвидности;
  • в ближайшее время на платформу будут добавлены wBTC и некоторые утилити-токены. Также The Ocean работает с секьюрити-токенами (Harbor, Securrency, Securitize) и поставщиками деривативов (UMA), которым необходимо регулируемое место для торговли их продуктами, которые появятся в конце этого года;
  • перед обновлениям API был совершён рекордный объём в $50k+ за сутки, что в 5 раз больше чем Radar Relay и Paradex вместе взятые за этот же день. Есть надежды, что эти цифры будут расти с подключением новых клиентов и добавлением новых токенов;
  • регуляторы только вернулись с праздников, и The Ocean ведёт активную и постоянную работу сразу с BitLicense (необходимо обновить документы в связи с новым API), SEC (аудит будет назначен ближайшее время) и ATS (позволит запустить вторичный рынок).
  • The Ocean находятся в процессе закрытия некоторых сделок с инвесторами, так как интерес к дорожной карте вновь вырос, и сочетание DeFi и регуляции стало очень мощным.

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Показалось, что проект закрылся, все разработчики ушли на другие проекты, все средства коммуникации заспамлены и не функционируют. Написал им в телеграмм - СЕО молчит. Написал в дискорд - молчит. Пришлось сегодня включать инвесторские связи, написал e-mail с запросом от инвестора.

Ответ: работают над регуляцией. До завершения процесса непонятно что делать с разработкой.

 

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Drafting investor update letter as we speak. Project has not shut down - we're just going dark as we move through regulatory process, since doing any biz before that is risky
 
Will include details and happy to set up a call too.

 

Хилимся, живём - как говорится.

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Тут же подоспел и отчёт для инвесторов (видимо моё письмо стало катализатором):

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Greetings all:

 

First let me apologize for the extended radio silence - not to share too much, but my mother got diagnosed with a rare form of cancer early this year, and so I had to focus a considerable amount of my energy over the last few weeks / months arranging for her care. Thankfully she's still with us, and looking positive.

 

I owe everyone some detailed updates - I plan to arrange a time to chat with everyone one-on-one over the next 1-2 weeks, as we evaluate (good) strategic options. Here's where we're at:

During the "crypto winter" over the last few months, we slowed our burn considerably, to now about $15k / month. We did this to preserve runway for the eventual thawing, which seems to be occurring now, to some extent

There hasn't been much activity on the platform in recent weeks, but that's been by design. We've limited our daily operations while we focus on BitLicense, SEC, and CFTC approvals - we don't want to jeopardize those as we interface with regulators. Once we have them in hand (and we should have them soon, now that I can focus again, and the SEC seems to be moving forward after their early April guidance), we have good optionality

Some of those options:

Partnership with / acquisition by crypto exchanges looking to differentiate themselves with a regulated offering

Partnership with private security trading platforms who want to experiment

Partnership with crypto remittance platforms who are having success elsewhere, and want to enter the US market

I know several of y'all have sent me emails, I apologize for delayed response, getting back into it now that my own family situation is settled. Obviously not ideal while trying to run a startup, but the silver lining (I'll take what I can get after the last few weeks haha) is that it's coincided with low crypto volumes and our own (extended) regulatory process. No DEX has "cracked the nut" of attracting traders en masse, and no one's beaten us in the regulatory game. So we're still in good position - especially given inbound partnership / acquisition interest.

 

I'll ping folks individually over the next few days to find times to chat, as I'd like to crowdsource some feedback.

 

Appreciate folks hanging in with us / me in particular.

 

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Они живы! Упоминание RenVM included (это я таким образом призываю @antaeus :hug:):

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Hope everyone is well. I wanted to share a few updates, as we get ready to come out of operational "hibernation," with regulatory approvals and some extra $ in our sails.
 
This summer, we've focused on business development, pushing our regulatory items forward, and additional fundraising / strategic support. We've limited operations during that time, to conserve cash and ensure ample "dry powder" once our core value proposition (minimally risky, operationally efficient trade execution and settlement for crypto and security / regulated financial tokens alike) becomes fully available. We think it's pretty clear that the "anonymous, retail-focused DEX" concept isn't going to be wildly successful. IDEX, DDEX, Radar Relay, and Airswap - who all follow that biz model, to some extent - today average $500k in daily trading volume, or less. Assuming some reasonable transaction fee (say 10bps), that's ~$500 in fees per day, or ~$175k / year. Without any differentiated offering from centralized platforms, and shrinking volumes on those anonymous unregulated retail-focused DEX platforms, it doesn't look today like a long-term winning strategy.
 
Instead, the most successful crypto platforms in the DeFi universe are those that have differentiated product offerings and / or customer bases. Take dydx for example, who's grown substantially over the last few months by offering users (predominantly crypto funds / algo traders) the ability to go long or short particular tokens, combined with a borrowing / lending interface. We'll offer something similar, but unique to us, in the form of options, once we complete our CFTC process. Moreover, it's our technology-regulatory combination that makes us one of the only homes for regulated offerings, where we continue to see progress - see Harbor as one example. 
 
And with centralized exchanges, as well as more traditional Wall Street players, hungry for ways to differentiate and / or experiment in the space - and requiring some sort of regulatory framework in which to do so  - there are multiple paths to outsized revenue and / or exit for us. Based on our biz dev to date, and some of the items below, our core thesis continues to hold true - early regulatory adoption is this space is valuable, and we'll get the first crack at the most valuable use cases of blockchain tech as a result.
 
Now, here's a quick synopsis of where we're at:
  • Regulatory:
    • We're working with ACA Compliance to respond to FINRA / SEC inquiries about our BD / ATS documentation. We've widened the scope of our application slightly to allow for primary market issuance of digital tokens under several regulatory designations. We're also finalized arrangements with ETC as our clearing agent for securities tokens. No negative feedback or indication from powers that be that we won't be approved as a BD / ATS
    • BitLicense and CFTC processes are progressing concurrently with BD / ATS; aiming for all by year-end
  • Technology:
    • We built options market functionality earlier this year, that we're waiting to release until we finalize the regulatory framework for those products with the CFTC. We are beginning to sign up liquidity partners for that offering. We have a demo available, happy to take folks through that
    • We're also scoping how to add BTC and cross-chain trading via RenVM. To the point made above - differentiated products really win the exchange wars. We think this will be a critical point of differentiation vs. other DEXs. We'd like to release both this and our options offering as we finish regulatory audits
  • Biz dev:
    • Several of Wall Street's larger broker-dealers are now either strategic investors and / or partners. This gives us a big advantage over other projects looking to bring STOs or other regulated products to market - we have a distribution network that others don't
    • We're in the final stages of working out with my former employer, Goldman Sachs, the best way to enter their accelerator program - which now has a heavy blockchain emphasis. This bring validation and makes GS a future customer. Again, relative to the projects in the space, because of this network, we have better institutional distribution network, and insight into the products / use cases most valued by that world. Note the emphasis on "stablecoins and asset tokenziation" in the piece - two of our strong points, and points around which we have a moat, with our regulatory advantage
    • We have a pipeline of STO offerings that we can bring to market later this / early next year. Part of that flow comes from relationships with Blockchain Triangle and Harbor. Another part comes from our own biz dev, tapping into unique use cases where a token offering makes sense, to make an asset maximally liquid and accessible to a particular class of investors. For example, we're starting to work towards an offering related to 1.4M acres of non-operating land assets, brought to you by a team involved in the Waggoner Ranch sale, in a very unique structure that we think offers a non-correlated hedge to other macro trades. Still early stages, but an example of an opportunity that appeals to some traditional institutional investors, that makes sense for a blockchain use case, and that only we can offer, because of our regulatory suite
  • $:
    • We're in the process of closing additional financing, to give us ample dry powder to chase customers / opportunities as our BD / ATS designation comes online. As mentioned above, included in this round are Wall Street strategics who can amplify our distribution / reach
    • We're generating some $ today, even with our MVP platform in "hibernation" mode, by providing engineering support and regulatory advice / protection to complementary projects. Not only does this offset our minimal burn today, it's an example of "ancillary" revenues (outside the core fee-per-trade biz model) that, because of our regulatory first-mover advantage, will become increasingly lucrative

 

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В чате амбасадоров REN есть Эндрю Кассетти, который все еще висит в списке команды The Ocean, он сказал что в 2018 году вышел из проекта и присоединился к Wyre. Но тем не менее, держит хороший контакт с оставшейся командой, не давно встречался с Джоном Пиотровски, показывал ему прототип своего приложения взаимодействующего с RenVm.

The Ocean заинтересовались тоже.

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Откуда можно делать вывод, что как минимум Wyre пилит приложение использующее RenVM! 🎉

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28 минут назад, cp287 сказал:

Откуда можно делать вывод, что как минимум Wyre пилит приложение использующее RenVM! 🎉

Я перенесу продолжение беседы в тему REN ) т.к. дальнейшая обсуждение в этой теме будет оффтопом. Я у него прямо это спросил, в чате амбасадоров, напишу ответ в теме рена 

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